Cure of Souls in Vaishnava Communities - HG Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu

Part - 01 a

The course is "Cure of Souls ......"
The phrase Cure of souls is an old English expression when a preist would take a parish it was said he was given the cure of souls in that area. Curate- refers to the old use of the word cure.

the word means care- care of souls but I also like the modern sense of cure- making well.
In one sens theis course is what iskcon is supposed to be about- curing souls of the comtanination of material existence and returning them o the association of Krishna.
I am going to use the work of a Chirsitian preacher -
Boisen is 1876-1965 an American lived a long life is actually because he was a strict brahmacari all his life.

Why I am going to use Boisen I will explain in the course of discussion.

First book- "Exploration of the inner world- a study of mental disorder and religious experience" reprinted a couple times.This is regarded as a classic in the psychology of religion. Second book- Religion in crisis and custom". this is his autobiographjical study of mental disorder and religion. Then I found " a manual for pastors"

Boisen is regarded as the founder of Clinical Pastoral Education that is to do with the pastoral care of mentally ill people and there is an association that carries this.

this course is not about the pastoral care of mentally ill people. What happened to Boisen he had a schizophrenic episode put in mental hospital  When he came out of the hospital could not convince anyone he was doing good. He was put again for a year. He came to the conclusion that what he was diagnosed as schizophrenia was actually a spiritual crisis  St Paul,maybe even Jesus, George Fox went through similar crisis- breaking up of the inner world and putting it back together on a new foundation that's what was happening to him. When the crisis is resolved successfully then you have a siant or religious leader. When it is unsuccesful you have someone who is maybe crazy and spends the rest of life in the mental hospital or he can be stabilized in an unsatisfactory way.

Anton Boisen was discharged from the mental hospital- he was already an ordained minister of the Presbyterian church.- very strict Presbyterian upbringing. He went back to study the psychology of religion and was able to work as a chaplain in a mental hospital to verify what he had thought he had discivered. Certain insights into what he calls the laws of spiritual life. Then he went and applied the same ideas to a normal parish- he had students who had the Cure of Souls and they decide to look at what was going on with all the people in their congregation to apply it normal life and discovered the same things apply there- this is in the first book Exploration of the inner world. In the second book he tried to apply the same ideas a religious groups as  wholes.

Boisen uses a lot of insights form social psychology- the book has an appendix of terms. It is the notion that the internal structure of the individual mirrors his social structure- that we are fundamentally social beings and we have internalized things that are happening in the society at large.

e.g - for Boisen salvation means to be accepted in the company of those you esteem most highly -pure devotees. Sin from a psychological point of view is isolation from the association of those people from whom you want to be accepted.

It turns out social psychology is very important for ISKCON bec our personalistic phil . As far as I am concerned the idea that God is a person is tied to the idea

Who is a Vaishnava - Part 3

Lecture Link: Who is a Vaishnava - Part 3 HH Radhanath Swami

Another time he was eating Bihari Lal put a big plate in front of him and would bring him prasad. Not far away a dog had puppies and these puppies would see a plate of prasad and they would run up and eat off the plate as he was eating. After seeing this, Bihari Lal chased the dogs away the next day. JDB asked where are the dogs- I am fasting until I have the association of these dogs. He would not eat. Bihari Lala brought the dogs back - gathered around in a circle around the plate and JDB ate blissfully - He said they are dogs of the holy Dhama of Nava dvipa. On anotehr occassion Bihari Lal was carrying him on  a basket on the shoulder - a wealthy man gave a big donation - BL gave it JDB - he said go back to that wealthy man- take this money back- you gave me only a few rupees, I feel the wt of it is so heavy- how will my servant survive.I can imagine you have so many rupees- how much of a wt is on your life. At other times he would accept donations- One time someone offered 200Rs- this is about 150 years ago, how much is it worth today- JDT took that money and told BHL that buy rasagullas worth 200Rs.

Ac to Sacidanananda Prabhu that is crores of Rs- Rasagullas. JDT said that feed them to the cows of Nava dvipa but dont give them to the bogus Babajis. The cos of the Holy Dhama.
When he was 146 years old he was in Sruya Kunda in Vraja bhumi and was going to Navadvipa. All the paramhamsa said you are so old why are you leaving Vrindavan- why not stay here- it is the Holiets place near Radha Kunda. JDB from the heart of his heart- he said I am a very fallen soul- Vrindavan is the place for the highest paramhamsas - internal part of Krishna's lila- I am very fallen. Let me give my life in Navadvipa- Lord CM and NP will give love of Krishna they give true realization of Vrindavan even to the most fallen souls like me. Let me return to Navadvipa.That was his humility. He was a guru of so many great great souls Disciple of Madhusudan Das Babaji who was just 2-3 lines after Baladeva Vidyabhusan , great souls he initiated like BVT writing prolific literatures and spreading the Holy Name lilke anything but he considered himself very fallen- living in the dust of navadvipa and cxalling out for the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu and Lord CM.

That was his last day in Vrindavna. He was so exalted by all sages and vaishnavas that when BVT had that vision of where the birthplace of Lord CM is - this is strongly controversial even to this day.Bec in the Kuliya gram side of navadvipa there has been for 100years a place that is worshipped as the birthplace of Lord CM. BVT from his examinations of scriptures, maps and discussions with exalted people- he said that that could not be that place...........

But he found the real place was on the other side of Ganga , He had a vision of light emanated form that place- he saw all Tulasi Plants growing although it was just a field nothin else would grow inly tulasi would grow. his final cinfirmation had to come from the realization of JDB- BHL got him ins  basket and got him down. JDB leaped out of the basket and started chanting the Lord;s names. BVT then said with all certainty that this is the birth place of Lord CM.

Today is also the disapperance day of HH Tamal krishna goswami Maharaja.Its already 11 o clock and SB is way beyond its boundary. Should I speak a few words about TKG.

what can I say about this very loving kind Godbrother who personally showered me with such immense affection kindness encouragement. I believe in 1968, he first came to SP along with his best friend who was lated Vishnu Jana Swami Maharaja. Thjey came to San Francisco and obviously a great saint from a prev life , he just committed himself 100% to SP and his mission.

Now in those days there was no instituon of ISKCON a little storefront in N"Y and IN SFO. In SFO noody wore dhoti or shaved heads very simple, but he joined there- meeting SP, hearing the phil, chanting the HN, tasting prasad committed his life. Practically from the first day although he was committed to serve as das anu das- SP saw himself as a leader , he was willing to commit himself and to take any typoe of risk for his gurudev. SP said that nothing great can be done without takin risk- if you are not willing to take risk then remain mediocre. SP took such immense risk at the age of 70 with nobody to recieve him. To stay in NYC despite everybody asking him to go i was a risk. When they gave him a storefront and told him that they could help with the first month;s rent- he did not nobody ands yet he signed the contract tooh the storefront in Manhattan that was risk.

SFO, London- signed for the land in Mumbai when he did not have any money- he took risks.
These early devotees include TKG had such faith and although PS disciples were rapidly growing more centers more places, SP had such trust in the commitment and abilities of tKG. Quite amazing. devotees were doing Harinaam Sankirtana- there was nothing else- no books , magazines to distribute. Temples were little storefornts- and do nama sankirtana- yoube heard about those days.

SP ordered TKG to organize first class sankirtana parties first time-most imp service in all of ISKCON.JHe put him incharge. Devotees were going all scattered out- he roganized the,m dressed in proper way, singing proper way- he organized in proper way and he inspired them with all faith to go outside and do nama sankirtana it was incrediblly sankirtana. SP told him to go all centers in ISKONC to organize nama sankirtana. NY has senior people and he is coming to tell them how to do nama sankritana . Dstributing BTG- he took it so seriously he was ogrganizing it when it first came out and couple years later- distribution was practically nothing- TKg was just determined that he would organize 1000s of BTG to be distributed- SP told him to go center to inspire and train people how to dsistribute BTG- Sometime later- SP started printing his books and SP had that faith and triust in the dtermination, enthusiasm and commitment of TKG. He just systemized organized book distribution very much in various parts of the wolrd- spearheaded. SP called him to London- nama sankirtana, btg, book distribution, stds of cleanliness, deity worhsip stds, like SP right hand man in so many ways. SP when he came to India- very difficult project end of 1970 his disciples arrived. Organizing a movement here anything devotees tried to do land money always getting chated and getting sick, very difficult . SP called TKg because he had such faith and trust in his commitment and allegiance in exactly doing things the parampara way. He put TKg in the most difficult service at that time to be the GBC of all of India when there was nothing here- for several years he did it- SP more or less was the GBD but TKG was his right hand- famous story when TKG wanted to take sanyas big controversy - he was so determined he wanted to give his life, no distractions form SP service. SP gave him sanyasa and he saw how SP loved Book distribution- he wanted to go to the west to expan Book distribution- he went to America joined with Vishnujana Swami maharaja who was doing drama , rock shows mantra- TKG organized from one little bus he organized an army of Book distributors- through their preaching and BD brining dozens from secular world, and training them to be book distributor- 4 major buses , 25 vans criss crossing all of america broke all recoird for BD.

Amazing.

SP called him for so many projects. Yesterday I was in Calcutta SP was striuggling to get land in Mayapur forces within and without blocking SP from egtting land in Mayapur- he sent many people but nobody could succeed. From Calcutta SP sent TKg with cash, Rs no check credit card- not an easy Mayapur was a land of dacoits, some gaudiya maths but very dangerous place travel by bus. SP took a pience of cloth like a kaupin and wrapped it around his waist - ruppes aorund his waits to buy land. SP personally showed him how to ties it so nobyd could see it. He spent days and days anf ffinally he convinced the people to sell him the land and all those rupees in small notes, he had to write the serial number of every note in order for the transcatiuon to be accepted. He got the deed - impossible and middle of the night he came back to Calcutta SP light was still on - he was translating his books- usually nobody disturbed SP when he was translating his books. TKg came in prostrated before SP, went on his knees- he said SP the land in Mayapur is yours and then handed SP the deed of ownership.

SP said I think "I was waiting for You, he was very very pleased and longer than anyone else he served as SP personal secretary and during SP last year 27:53.

The Magic of Love

From the lecture : "The Magic of Love" by HH Radhanath Swami

"Our real strength is in the willingness to care for and support others. We are caretakers of divine property. Wisdom is to understand the simple universal principle that in giving we receive . By getting things we make a living and by giving we make a life. the spiritual evolution of a society can be understood when people love people and use thungs. But all too often in today's world it is is the opposite. People use people. I discovered something that really transformed my life. A simple ageless truth. All of our desires, with their longings, gratifications and frustrations stem from a  single origin , forgetfulness of a love that is inherent within our own hearts and in that love there is truth. In 1971 I learned this lesson from a very unlikely and unforgettable teacher. I was just coming out of my teenage years, I decided to walk higher into the Himalayan mountains. Suddenly I came upon seeing something horrifying. There were people that were homeless, starving, some naked,some  in rags, their limbs were mingled and deformed. I had stumbled into a leprosy colony. When they saw me, a foreigner they thought I had some money.20 of them made a circle around me so tight, I couldn't move.

They were screaming bakshish bakshish-" Give me Charity". Part of me was thinking why are they doing this to a stranger?"-  And another part of me was thinking they are so destitute and so completely forgotten by society they have a right to do whatever they want.It was about 20 minutes they harassed me, finally when they realized I had nothing to give, they let me go. When I walked a few steps only I saw to my side a short distance away an old leper women, she was laying in rags, her nose was melted into a hole of decaying flesh. Our eyes met. she looked at me with a sad smile. She understood my anguish . At that moment she conveyed to me wordlessly the tender love of a mother. Her look conveyed to me that she wanted nothing from me, but she understood how devastated I was  with the shocking encounter with her people. She held out her fingerless hand to bless me, moved by her motherly affection , I approached her and fell on my knees with her hand on my head and she said " May God bless you my child". I looked at her, her face was lit up with joy, she was beautiful. I felt that God had sent me to her so that she could do what any mother however rich, poor, healthy or sick has a right to do- to bless a child. I wept.

Later that day I was sitting on the bank of the Ganges.I was thinking that poor leper woman who had such an appalling disease like the river beneath the surface there was so much more. It seemed to em that all she really wanted is to love and be loved. She wasn't cursing God for her misfortune, rather she was giving God's blessings to one another with great joy. This made me contemplate , how easy it is for us to focus on our differences. What this leper woman taught me, if we look deeply within our own selves, within others we will find that beyond the differences , nationality, gender, appearance, race, health and disease there is something essential we all have in common., The souls inherent capacity to love.

In every heart there is Good dog and bad dog- represents the tendency to be mean , to be selfish. Good dog- is our divine nature. Sometimes bad dog howls so loud that its reverberating in our minds. We hardly hear the sound of the good dog, calling out for our attention. Which of these dogs will prevail, the one we chose to feed moment by moment by the choices we make.

My beloved teacher, Srila Prabhupada was once asked by a reporter- you are a swami, can you show me magic. He quoted a verse that Lord Krsna has said in the BG- the real magic of life is the wisdom of our own divinity. When we understand beyond the ever changing body and mind, the living force has the inherent capacity to love. When we access that love in ourselves then we can see our harmony with God with nature and with each other. The real magic of our lives is transformation- arrogance into humility, greed into generosity, hate into love, sorrow into joy. It is said ,that you can understand how rich you are by counting how many things you have that money cannot buy.

Inner fulfillment, to love, to be loved, that unconditional love which is inherent within all of us , is the greatest power in the universe- it is power that has such force to motivate us to accomplish things that we can accomplish things wonderful for ourselves, our families, our communities. Whether we are politicians, scientists, businessmen, agriculturist or a little swami that capcity is within all of us and when we harmonize that principle within our lives we can be empowered by grace to make extraordinary changes in everything we do.

Modern Accepting Culture vs Vedic Accepting Culture

Modern Measuring Culture vs Vedic accepting Culture
HH Bhakti Vijnana Goswami
How deeply we are in Maya?

People and they have this habit to measure everything . They come closer to otehrs only to measure them. They look down at people.
Whoever we look upon we try to see how they are less than ourselves.

We just want to show I am greater than you.

Standard dialog between people who have ahankara "who do you think you are?" and the standard answer is "Who do you think you are?"

That is unfortunately a manifestation of our pride and that is our mentality we want to measure how big everything is. One tsp is trying to measure an ocean. WE are doing this constntaly ona  daily basis and thats why we are here. Unless we change this mentality and outlook of this world. WE change the approach to everything how we see we may not leave this world.

We may get a posn that maybe a little but more advantageous that we will measure everyone.

Our attempt to measure is to prove our own greatness to our own self. The very fact that I cna measure something means I am greater. Scientists are trying to measure everything. Modenr science is just an attempt to measure - a little atom or a big universe. Its ridiculous. The mentality behind this is " I know what it is " " I know how much greater it is than me , but bec I am measuring it I am greater"

The very approach is rotten . They are trying to measure anything and for that they have to really- to measure somebody or something you have to make it dead.

This attempt is only to create problems.

Beautiful example of this is very interesting- new achievement and modern astronomy.
e.g Bing Bang Theory....
New theory is that it explodes all the time- again and again and again. There are cycles in the universe .

To understand anything you have to bow down.This is the secret of Vedic Culture. If you want to understand something you have to worship. Anything we do in this world has to be an act of worship. When the musician in Vedic Culture plays he first bows down and pays his obeisances to the instrument - I am not playing , I am an instrument. Ia m worhsipping this instrument so that I can perform something. Whatever you take, any act- the essential teaching is how to worship.

Modern people deride vedic Culture they says primitive people- worship stone, trees, rivers, . But they are not primitive., Ultimately they worship god- because they worship God they worhsip everything else. HH RNs said " If you are humble you are humble in front of everything" If you are not humble in front of anything then you are not humble. Humulity means you are humble in front of everything. Our lack of humility manifests in trying to measure.

This is the teaching of Vedic Culture how to live in this world without distraction.

Its is also beautifully described in the SB verse 10.14.12. He says anay radhita nunam.

Maya means I bring something closer to me to measure. SG says what Radharani does- she is called Radha she is the best of the Worshippers. anaya- brinigng closewr to herself.- whatever she does she is worshipping. Whatever we are doing we are trying to measure. This is the situation of Maya.

We need to learn this if we want to change something categorically in our hearts. How to worship the Lord? and not just the Lord. That is the mistake a prakrta bhakta does- I will worship the Lord but measure everyone.

Thats why the beginners are called prakrta bhaktas.- There is no real acceptance of the Lord in the real senses. Unless and until ithis mentality is there- destructive mentality means the destruction of everything around you and ultimately of yourself. Ahankara is the destructive element of this creation. Siva is the Lord of Ahankara-

Why do we have to die because of false ego. Those who do not have false ego they are immortal. False ego is the very cause of destruction beginning with our very own self.

Ego Divides us, Bhakti unites us

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2014 03 09 Sunday Feast Ego Divides Us Bhakti Unites Us Radhanath SWa

On the path of pure bhakti our festival is the opportunity is to come together for every opportunity to come together to share our love for Krsna with the world. Its a celebration of the heart. Celebration of the atma the eternal soul. This drama performed is a story of celebration. The children who performed it, I believe it enjoyed giving it to you more 100 times more than you enjoyed in receiving it. This sia what makes the festival of bhakti- joy is in giving. There is a common saying - in gigivn we recieve universal principles. The evolution of human consciousness is growing from the need to get things to the joy of giving.

And the more of a difference we make in someones life when we give, greater the joy. And the greatest problem in the world in the gita - janma mrtyu jara vyadhi- utlimately everyone is looking for happiness, no one is looking for pain but there is no stable material arrangement to provide that platform. Everything is changing. Things are not only could happen but will happen - beyond our control.

Different types of Giving and their relationship with the modes
To feed more people is to give- that is a certain level of charity a certain state of consciousness- to hospitalize sick people- also a sattva guna. charity in more of ignorance is to give the persona  wrong thing- like give a cigarette but its not a pious thing to do. But you are giving the person an opportunity to incriminate him further. Charity in rajo guna we do it thinking what we will get in return- i will become famous, recognition, i may get more profits- if I give in charity then people will buy more things from me. To give for the welfare of someone without any expectation in return is in mode of goodness. But still its not that because we have food, hospitalization and some prestige there is still suffering, it doesn't make us happy. We still as many of those people with all of those things suffering as much as those who don't. To the extent we really care and want to do good for people, that is the extent to which we will give.

We are the atma , we are the soul- we are not our bodies and our mind, we are in our bodies and mind.

• To help a persons's body and mind in a genuine way in different ways to find peace, positive thinking, ways of overcoming stress is all in the mode of goodness if it is done with a genuine concern. But what we have given to the soul the real person?
• What can actually transcend suffering forever- to go beyond birth beyond death. To see their relatives and their loved ones according to their actual spiritual nature- rich or poor your family members will die. What have we given to people to understand the spiritual identity of their family member?
• They are part of God- beyond birth and beyond death- their soul has gone beyond this residence of the body but we can still do something wonderful for them. Through our devotion and love for Krsna we can liberate the soul of countless of our relatives. What to speak of those with us now and what to speak of other relatives. Sanaatana dharma is to understand the treasure of who we really are and to give that treasure to others.Because we cannot give so much unless we have something to give.

We can give what we have
Beggar in the Himalayaas but some lepers came to me begging to me but I didnt have i paise what could I give? So our Sadhana, our Satsang, Sadachar these spiritual practices connect us to the real wealth of spiritual joy,  Krsna's grace and Radha's grace. That is actually our real wealth and to the degree we access that to taht degree we can give that. Bharata bhumi ... CM said all people of India have been given this greatest wealth of this culture of Bhakti- para upkaar- the greatest welfare is to give this knowledge that the soul is eternal , the soul is part of God and the soul can be connected to God through the chanting of the Holy Name.
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Ravana
 We can learn from every type of person, the problem is what we learn from them. We can learn the worst thing in the world from him or how not to be like him. Once we have a foundation of what is really valuable in life then in every situation of life we can learn lessons.

Ravana what was his wealth. (.............About Gold......). My father gave my niece my mother's gold earring. She was very happy, he was even more happy and my mother must have been the most happy .
Ravana had so much gold- as far as my study of world history- he had the most gold ever. Entire city made of Gold, Palaces made of Gold, airplane made of gold- wasn't like these airplanes. Any airline you choose they are more or less all the same- same manufacturers make the airline for the service
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Hanumanji's tail was soaked in flammable oil, massive blazing fire. Hanuman saw this as an opportunity to serve. This is a great soul- does not think why is this happening to me. Higher consciousness how can I serve in this situation... Palace went on fire, jumped fro roof to roof just touching his tail. This a lesson on karma too. When you harm another it will come to you. The same fire that Ravana lit to cause Hanuman suffering caused him the greatest suffering. The same fire.... If you go to Gambhira the same fire has been going since the time of CM. Many places like that at tombs. It was Ravana's flame, Hanuman said alright I will share your flame and the City was burning. Afterword when Rama had the camp with the monkey soldeirs. When they were assembled on the shore- spies came to see and they told Ravana. Vibhishanaa just told Ravana just give Sita to Rama she doesn't belong to you, she belongs to Rama. If you do not give her back then you and the entire dynasty will be destroyed. Ravana became so angry he rejected Vibhishana- If you were not my brother I would kill you . He with his two ministers came to take shelter of Rama. First he was misunderstood but Hanuman understood his heart and with total faith in Hanuman's words Lord Rama accepted him as His own servant.

Even though so cruel- he abused Vibhishana beyond human conception- he scolded, him chastized him exiled him. After the war Rama had already coronated Vibhishana as the king. Rama told Vibhishana that you should perform the last rites for him. Vibhishana said "how can I perform the last rites for him on Your behalf. He was so cruel- he stole Your wife. Bec of him so many have died and suffered . what to speak of the abuse and rejection. Rama told Vibhishana that we should never carry vengeance towards anyone- We hate the disease but not the person with the disease. Ravana's disease was arrogance, lust, envy, anger and greed no more disease he is dead. Now you could help liberate his soul- you should give that. Vibhishana with all his heart and soul believed that and performed the last rites. That was his greatness.

In the Mahabharat there is a very similar story. Vidura- he was so much like Vibhishana and went thru similar experiences. He was the younger brother of Dhritarashtra who had son Suryodhana who was pushing him to do wrong things. Year after Year Vidura as a loving brother and friend of Dhrtarashtra  advised him to do the right thing. But Ravana and dhrtarashtra year after year did the wrong thing.

Vidura would tell Dhrtarashtra that the kingdom is of the Pandavas- give back what doesnt belong to you. That was Vidura. Vibhishana told Ravana to give back Sita to Rama as She did not belong to him. Vidura knew the Panadavas to be great devotees of Krsna. Both of them left in great humiliation. Vidura such terrible words spoken by Duryodhana and nothing said by Dhrtarashtra thereby confirming it- he left behind the kingdom , his belongings and also his wife.
Vibhishana did the same. They took shelter of Rama and Krsna by joining the army and going to the Holy Names.

Vibhishana came back and performed the last rites and Vidura came back after all the humiliation to preach to Dhrtarashtra and gave him liberation.

This emphatic principle of the principle of compassion and forgiveness of seeing the disease but not hating the diseased is very much foundational to Vaishnaav character.
A doctor is postively concerned for the patient and will do anything possible to alleviate the diseased. Hanuman who was teh personification of this principle came as Murari Gupta in CM lila who happened to be a Dr a medical person. The SPG loves to show unity in variety. Grha thako vna thako .sada hari bole thako... Whether we are grhasthas or vanaprasthas or sanyasis the ultimate thing is our devotion how we are actually calling out the Lord's names and living in a spirit in seva. Hanumanji was teh ultimate brahmacari. For him it was just Rama Seva but he cam a s Murari Gupta a doctor with a wife.

One time Sri CM wanted to show the heart of His devotee. We read so many teachings in the Bhagavatam , The Upanisad and the Vedas- special feature of these books like Ramayanaa, Mahabharata is the teaching comes alive through the lives of the great souls. when we see how panadavas, prahlada, dhruva pracetas ambaraisa, Rantideva- the quality of their lives and the choices they make especially in conditions of great difficulty - from that example we actually understand the teachings.Jnana vijnana trptatma

Knowledge is meant to put in practice. Without practice there can be no realization.All knowledge is meant for Xformation- its not just to know. To know means absolutely nothing spiritually unless we apply that knowledge in the way we live. In the good times and in the hard times- we don't get arrogant when things are good and we do not get depressed when things go bad. We actually are always seeing every situation to humbly surrender to the Lord.

So the Lord teaches through his devotees- Murari Gupta was called by Sri CM Mahaprabhu on the sat prahara lila or the mahaprakash lila - giving benedictions to all His devotees...................

Accc to the great vaishnava acaryas this was their very deepest conviction that the highest revelation of love is in the spirit of being the servant of the servant. Lord CM when he was about to instruct Sanatana Goswami of the innermost secrest of the highest realms of  love in Goloka and the different levels leading to that His premise was jivera svarupa hoya krisnera nitya dasa. The jiva is eternally servant of Krsna- the highest truest sense of love in Bhakti is reciprocal. Hanuman doesnt want to become Rama- Imagine telling him you can become Rama- He wants to love and serve Rama and feeling Rama's love for him is infinitely satisfying. Becoming a concept of entering into the all pervading Brahman is certainly a spiritual form of ecstacy its just total peace- not birth no death, its just existence just ecstascy within the Lord's own effulgence. But Rama Krsna the absolute Supreme Rasa Bihari, the Supreme lover to feel their intimate love for us and to reciprocate by loving Himwith gratitude and humility serving Him. Rg tells the bliss of impersonal relaiztaion is like a drop compared to the limitless ocean of happiness when you are a loving servant. Because then Rama and Krsna reciprocate with their inifinte love. Our pleasure is in Krsna's pleasure. Hanuman only pleasure was in sita and Rama's pleasure. when you love Rama and Sita you love everyone. When Hanuman came back to Kishkindha ksetra(Hampi) he went to Madhuban which was teh favorite fruit grove of Sugriva . When he came back from Lanka and told the monkeys about Sita - the monkeys were so happy, they were jumping on the trees- but Sugriva became furious. But he was told that Hanuman just wants everyone to become happy and share teh love with everyone.

Murari Gupta as Hanuman - utlimate pleasure is to give pleasure of the beloved. Think about the beendiction- I only want to sing and remember your glories and serve You.